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Best Layouts

I'd love to see your best layouts, and maybe their win/loss record. I'd like for us to ultimately find the best layouts possible.

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smuttlegiaco

I've studied layouts quite a bit, with my current bests performing 235/279 = 84.2%, 534/680 = 78.5%, 359/456=78.7%. However, a better statistic of their strength is their average length of game when it loses. The first layout is averaging just under 30 turns (29.59), which is the highest I've seen yet.

Naturally, I don't want to share them here, but some basic principles apply:

1. Place at least one or two ships adjacent to each other. If I can guess (and based on winrate, I'm usually right) that none of your ships are adjacent to each other, then finding your ships is incredibly easier. e.g. a battleship that normally takes up 5 squares can now be assumed to take up 21(!) squares, because I can ignore all the adjacent cells.

2. Players with high winrates are usually that way because of some trick in their layout, such as putting their patrol boat in a really sneaky spot. Usually this is adjacent to their battleship, carrier, or submarine. 89% of my high rated opponents had their patrol boat corner to another ship, although the newer meta is to place the patrol boat isolated from other ships. The more you play, the better feel you get for the winrate of various common tricks.

3. Submarines and carriers are generally vertical, while the remaining ships are generally horizontal.

4. The highest density cells are in rows 2-3,8-9 and columns b-c,h-i, particularly near the center of each row/column.

5. Patrol boats tend to be in a "window pattern" on the board. What I mean is they tend to be in rows 1-2,5-6,9-10 and columns a-b,e-f,i-j, or in other words they tend not to be in the middle of each of the four quadrants. The area just south of the center is the most common.

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smuttlegiacoTibor
The board is finite

how do you get those stats?

I collect the data myself in several Excel files. There's a lot of information you can extract from just the data they give you, but I like to keep even more detailed records.

The board is finite

This is great - thanks for sharing!  I've done my own abbreviated stats research, on a bout 200 games, which has helped my win rate as I've found the most likely spots for the patrol boat.  I haven't really figured out the best layout yet!